this place seems like the last bastion of real underground, amateur, and new music in general. too bad, edgemeer's older songs are generally too long to use here. i might try finding the master copy of the songs and seeing if a vbr rate can get *some* under 4MB while *not* sacrificing a lot of sound quality.

either way, i have renoise running now, and going to start messing with that. i would use buzz (what i used for every song on "slowly crushing you"), but after being away from that program for a couple years and trying to use it again later, i realized how unstable and unsure using that program really is, and also found, i have very little patience for that.